Starting from the Alzina del Sal·lari we will go up along the camí dels Graons de Mura and once we have reached the tracks we will come to the Sot dels Graons, at the walls known by the name of Penitents. As in the case of the cova del Joan Petit, we will leave the thread of the torrent on our left and go in search of the tip of the cliff of this other slope. Before reaching the tip, the cova del Joan Gran is within a strip of gully covered with boxwoods, a few metres above a wall of not very pronounced rocater.